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Viva la Federation!


zum #SCDay17 weise ich gerne darauf hin, dass "Social Media" nicht den Konzernen "gehört": #GNUsocial #mastodon #friendica #FLOSS


Und es hat nur einen halben Tag gedauert, bis ich dahinter gestiegen bin was es mit dem #SCDay17 auf sich hat. Huldigt ihr mal schön den Kommerziellen-"Sozialen"-Netzwerken.

 
zum #SCDay17 weise ich gerne darauf hin, dass "Social Media" nicht den Konzernen "gehört": #GNUsocial #mastodon #friendica #FLOSS

 
Just to note: I will not insist on banning this instance in #gnusocial code. It's up to developers. I will not even ask them to do so :)

 
Melde mal deine Erfahrungen und noetigen Aenderungen im Bug-Tracker von #GNUSocial, vielleicht ist dort ein Fehler unterlaufen.

 
Sketch of the #Fediverse / #TheFederation by Mike from #Hubzilla. source.




Nice that #Socialhome was included 😊 I sure hope #Activitypub kicks off with some implementations soon. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions on how to implement it. Looks like #Mastodon will be the first major platform, hopefully that will pull others. Depending how it works for them 😉

#diaspora #friendica #redmatrix #Gnusocial #pumpio #mediagoblin https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike/?f=&mid=fbb14a6e8be5202638250ed72017ffc78ae717ba092b5b7963c91b699f09be2d@macgirvin.com

 
Sketch of the #Fediverse / #TheFederation by Mike from #Hubzilla. source.




Nice that #Socialhome was included 😊 I sure hope #Activitypub kicks off with some implementations soon. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions on how to implement it. Looks like #Mastodon will be the first major platform, hopefully that will pull others. Depending how it works for them 😉

#diaspora #friendica #redmatrix #Gnusocial #pumpio #mediagoblin https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike/?f=&mid=fbb14a6e8be5202638250ed72017ffc78ae717ba092b5b7963c91b699f09be2d@macgirvin.com

 
Sketch of the #Fediverse / #TheFederation by Mike from #Hubzilla. source.




Nice that #Socialhome was included 😊 I sure hope #Activitypub kicks off with some implementations soon. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions on how to implement it. Looks like #Mastodon will be the first major platform, hopefully that will pull others. Depending how it works for them 😉

#diaspora #friendica #redmatrix #Gnusocial #pumpio #mediagoblin https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike/?f=&mid=fbb14a6e8be5202638250ed72017ffc78ae717ba092b5b7963c91b699f09be2d@macgirvin.com

 
Sketch of the #Fediverse / #TheFederation by Mike from #Hubzilla. source.




Nice that #Socialhome was included 😊 I sure hope #Activitypub kicks off with some implementations soon. Unfortunately there are a lot of questions on how to implement it. Looks like #Mastodon will be the first major platform, hopefully that will pull others. Depending how it works for them 😉

#diaspora #friendica #redmatrix #Gnusocial #pumpio #mediagoblin

Mike Macgirvin - mike@macgirvin.com

https://macgirvin.com/channel/mike/?f=&mid=fbb14a6e8be5202638250ed72017ffc78ae717ba092b5b7963c91b699f09be2d@macgirvin.com

 
Something I have been thinking would be nice would be pure indexing servers that expose search endpoints for other nodes to implement. A bit like the relays which is a really simple little server that just handles passing on content. But the index server would just listen and store everything it gets sent. There could be many run by volunteers and node admins could choose which one they want to integrate with using a REST API.

An integration for example be allowing users to search by keywords. The index server could have a well tuned search engine (like elasticsearch) which could find relevant posts easily by full text search, not just tags. This would allow finding interesting content and people who post that content, which currently is problem mainly by accident and effort.

Using the relays, the index servers could get filled with content and nodes wouldn't necessarily have to subscribe to every public post available as there would be the option to retrieve some as needed.

And since #Diaspora can these days pull in payloads from old content, you could tell your node to pull in the content from the original source so you can interact with it.

Too many things to do :P

(this oldish #idea extracted from this thread)

Federation

Federation
Today, I have fiddled around a bit with the #gnusocial network, yesterday I checked out #Hubzilla. I must say that, for now, I find all of them pretty much equally good, but I found all of them to be weak in one very important aspect. I would like to know your thoughts about this.
IMHO, neither gnusocial, nor Hubzilla, nor diaspora* are handling #federation well. I would, from whatever I read about the systems, expect any pod, hub, or instance to be able to synchronise with all the others. There should be a protocol to gather all posts from all pods, hubs, or servers, not only the ones that someone from your own pod/hub/server has already added.
I opened what is here called the public activity on two different #quitter (a gnusocial installation) servers, only to be shown two entirely different timelines. Not even ten percent were shared content.
Maybe I have the wrong idea of what all this should be or has been made for, but as far as I can tell, social media are in part...

 
Something I have been thinking would be nice would be pure indexing servers that expose search endpoints for other nodes to implement. A bit like the relays which is a really simple little server that just handles passing on content. But the index server would just listen and store everything it gets sent. There could be many run by volunteers and node admins could choose which one they want to integrate with using a REST API.

An integration for example be allowing users to search by keywords. The index server could have a well tuned search engine (like elasticsearch) which could find relevant posts easily by full text search, not just tags. This would allow finding interesting content and people who post that content, which currently is problem mainly by accident and effort.

Using the relays, the index servers could get filled with content and nodes wouldn't necessarily have to subscribe to every public post available as there would be the option to retrieve some as needed.

And since #Diaspora can these days pull in payloads from old content, you could tell your node to pull in the content from the original source so you can interact with it.

Too many things to do :P

(this oldish #idea extracted from this thread)

Federation

Federation
Today, I have fiddled around a bit with the #gnusocial network, yesterday I checked out #Hubzilla. I must say that, for now, I find all of them pretty much equally good, but I found all of them to be weak in one very important aspect. I would like to know your thoughts about this.
IMHO, neither gnusocial, nor Hubzilla, nor diaspora* are handling #federation well. I would, from whatever I read about the systems, expect any pod, hub, or instance to be able to synchronise with all the others. There should be a protocol to gather all posts from all pods, hubs, or servers, not only the ones that someone from your own pod/hub/server has already added.
I opened what is here called the public activity on two different #quitter (a gnusocial installation) servers, only to be shown two entirely different timelines. Not even ten percent were shared content.
Maybe I have the wrong idea of what all this should be or has been made for, but as far as I can tell, social media are in part...

 
Is there anywhere a short description of the federated networks with links to the server lists, a page that explains the pros and cons of the networks and points a new user to a list of servers for each system?
Just like https://the-federation.info/ does, but for #GnuSocial, #Mastodon, #Hubzilla, #Friendica and #Diaspora, not a complete page with all information, but a short introduction.

 
That is why I do no longer post on #twitter, because of that annoying promoted accounts flooding my timeline. I blocked already a lot there but they still kept coming until I started using #GNUSocial and now #Friendica.

 

Ding, ding, ding!


I'm proud to announce that I'm at this point on the #Fediverse where I've been getting so much interesting content from my european contacts that I've been under the impression that the Mastodon communication was broken just because my US contacts' content would be buried way too far in my timeline for me to notice.

Keep it going, folks, it's all good!

#Friendica #Diaspora #Mastodon #GNUSocial

 

Social Web Incubator Community Group kick-off call



Reminder, kick-off call for the SWICG group this Friday, May 5th of 2017 at 4PM GMT.

What is this thing?
"The purpose of the Social Web Incubator Community Group is to continue and extend the development of vocabularies, formats and protocols to support the distributed / federated social web, as well as related technologies (such as anti-abuse and anti-spam techniques suitable for an open web)."
It would be great to have a wide array of influencers and builders of the federated social web present, at least listening for a random comment, if not actively engaged. Participating in the calls is not mandatory at all. Especially would love key contributors from projects like #diaspora, #friendica, #hubzilla, #mastodon, #gnusocial and #pumpio to be present. https://www.w3.org/community/swicg/2017/05/01/social-web-incubator-community-group-kick-off-call/

 
Just though about making a comic about a conservative cyborg. Got this from #mastodon / #GnuSocial


 
Just though about making a comic about a conservative cyborg. Got this from #mastodon / #GnuSocial


 

GNU Social isn't for me


To replace Facebook in my life, I self-hosted an instance of Diaspora then Friendica (from where I'm writing right now), and I thought I could self-host a GNU Social instance to better communicate with Mastodon accounts.

However, I quickly realized that I wouldn't be able to use it for a simple reason: my timeline was filled with replies to conversations I wasn't a part of. The ratio signal/noise is then extremely low. I've been told it's a feature of the OStatus protocol, which means it won't get fixed anytime soon.

At Friendica we support OStatus but we mitigate the clutter by threading conversations and trying to ignore replies that don't concern us. It doesn't work completely reliably, but for me it already is heaps better than the constant chatter I couldn't make sense of in GNU Social.

#federation #friendica #gnusocial #mastodon

 
#Twidere supporting Mastodon is a pretty big deal. That means you can use #Twitter #Mastodon & #GNUsocial all from one app.

 

Update profile photos of external user's


Hi @Friendica Support

I just update some picture profil on external account : one on #gnusocial and one on #mastodon.

I force updating via contact page : nickname and description updated, but not profile picture.

I try with crepair link on contact page too. It's a desired behaviour or a little issue ? The only way to updating profile picture was manually update it somewhere ?

 
@cquest
Le grand père de Mastodon a été utilisé dans un cadre pédagogique il y a quelques années au Québec. Il en reste ça.

#recit #gnusocial

Fin du projet EnDirect

Le microblogue EnDirect a été créé, entre autres, dans le but de fournir un lieu plus sécuritaire, plus privé, plus ciblé (éducation) que les réseaux sociaux «publics». De plus, EnDirect était un projet de recherche et développement qui avait pour but…

 
@rudloff Did you made same test with a #gnusocial ?

Else : when there are an compatibility issue between gnusocial and mastodon : i open 2 bugs .....

 
At this point in #Mastodon's public life, it is already clear that newbies in the #fediverse wants to create a #Diaspora-like walled-garden instead of federating with the larger #OStatus network.

Disconnecting from the federation or banning instances is not the solution to a problem. #GNUsocial #Friendica and #Hubzilla addressed these properly. Mastodon users should learn from their "elders".

Network federation isn't new. Let's be humble, shall we?

 
Yes, latest #Twidere from Google Play is working again for #GNUsocial

 
Think i can host it if needed , i have my #gnusocial instance since 2011 . But i need to validate if i move whole to #Friendica or not.

It's not urgent i think

 
#Mastodon Still Dominant in the News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/100240 #gnusocial never got this much press coverage

Mastodon Still Dominant in the News | Tux Machines

Mastodon Still Dominant in the News | Tux Machines

 
Petit article du monde sur le buzz #mastodon (qui est, je le rappelle, une nouvelle interface sur le réseau de microblogging décentralisé #statusnet renommé #gnusocial, qui utilise le protocole #ostatus).

Je me suis inscrit avec @fla sur mastodon.social mais ce compte ne sera bientôt plus utilisé, je m'inscrirai sur l'instance qu'on va monter avec #framasoft. Il y a des trucs pas mal, mais ils vont bientôt rencontrer les problèmes qu'on a eu avec #diaspora autour de la décentralisation (une instance qui grossie trop, les gens qui ne se rappellent plus sur quel site ils sont inscrits...)

Le réseau social Mastodon, un « Twitter plus proche de l’esprit originel »

Plusieurs milliers d’internautes ont afflué sur le nouveau réseau social à la mode, souvent à la recherche d’une simplicité et d’une bonne humeur disparues.

 
Petit article du monde sur le buzz #mastodon (qui est, je le rappelle, une nouvelle interface sur le réseau de microblogging décentralisé #statusnet renommé #gnusocial, qui utilise le protocole #ostatus).

Je me suis inscrit avec @fla sur mastodon.social mais ce compte ne sera bientôt plus utilisé, je m'inscrirai sur l'instance qu'on va monter avec #framasoft. Il y a des trucs pas mal, mais ils vont bientôt rencontrer les problèmes qu'on a eu avec #diaspora autour de la décentralisation (une instance qui grossie trop, les gens qui ne se rappellent plus sur quel site ils sont inscrits...)

Le réseau social Mastodon, un « Twitter plus proche de l’esprit originel »

Plusieurs milliers d’internautes ont afflué sur le nouveau réseau social à la mode, souvent à la recherche d’une simplicité et d’une bonne humeur disparues.

 
@sonya @Gargron having been a #StatusNet / #GNUSocial (and also #Diaspora and #Friendica) user for quite some time, my experience is that it gets better as more people follow each other on different instances. The more they do, the more posts actually federate between instances, as (AFAIK) only posts of users followed are federated from remote instances.

 
I used Diaspora and Movim and find out that there are others too!
Whats the favorit Decentralized Social Network Software?

#Software #Diaspora #RedMatrix #Hubzilla #Friendica #Movim #GNUsocial #Decentralized #SocialNetwork

 
I used Diaspora and Movim and find out that there are others too!
Whats the favorit Decentralized Social Network Software?

#Software #Diaspora #RedMatrix #Hubzilla #Friendica #Movim #GNUsocial #Decentralized #SocialNetwork

 

diaspora* Advanced Sharer



https://share.diasporafoundation.org/

Probando el botón de compartir de #Diaspora*, veré si hay de #GNUSocial e Identi.ca (o Pump).

Share to diaspora*

Share to diaspora*

 
Hmm, pity, thought #GNUSocial was a bit more actively developed project 🙁

I wonder what kind of active user base there is?

https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/commits/master

 
one of the big differences between gnusocial-diaspora-friendica-libertree ..... and hubzilla

#decentralizednetworks #distributednetworks #fossnetworks #diaspora #friendica #gnusocial #hubzilla #zot

Image/photoMike Macgirvin wrote the following post Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:24:34 +0100

I've had to answer a lot of questions about nomadic identity recently. It's not that hard. Let me try and bring it to an easier conceptual level.

For our example we'll start with email since it's a concept many people sort of understand.

You've got a friend named Bob. Bob has two email accounts. He has a home account at bob@home.server, and he has a work account at bob@work.server . Now most people instinctively know that if they get an email from either address, that they've received an email from Bob. They usually don't even think about what server he is using.

Nomadic identity just means that when we send an email, we will send to both of Bob's addresses any time we send an email to Bob. This way he'll get the message no matter if he's at home or if he's at work.

Simple enough? Good, let's continue.

Now let's take this into the decentralised social networking space such as provided by Hubzilla. What's different? The only thing is that if Bob posts a picture while he's at work, his work server send a copy to his home server so he'll have the same picture in his photo albums in both places. If he makes a new friend, the friend will be added on both servers so he has the same friends no matter where he goes.

Now if Bob loses his job and his account gets removed from work.server, Bob's onlife life still goes on and he still knows the same people and still can post the same things. He'll just use home.server; and then when he gets a new job, he can send you stuff from bob@newjob.server. Your software will instantly notice - "hey, this is my friend Bob!" even if it has never heard of newjob.server before and update some stuff internally to indicate that Bob can now be reached at newjob.server.

None of this matters to you, because as far as your software is concerned, it's just 'Bob'. You don't care what server he uses or what job he has this week.

That's what nomadic identity is all about..

*Jag har fått svara på en massa frågor om nomadisk identitet på senaste tiden. Det är inte så svårt egentligen. Låt mig försöka ta det till en mer lättbegriplig nivå.

I vårt exempel börjar vi med e-post eftersom det är ett koncept som många människor på sätt och vis förstår.

Du har en vän som heter Bob. Bob har två e-postkonton. He has a hemmakonto på bob@hemma.server, och han har ett jobbkonto på bob@arbete.server . Nu förstår de flesta människor instinktivt att om de får ett e-postmeddelande från någon av adresserna, så har de fått ett e-postmeddelande från Bob. De funderar vanligtvis inte över vilken server han använder.

Nomadisk identitet betyder bara att när vi skickar ett e-postmeddelande, kommer vi att skicka det till båda Bobs adresser varje gång vi skickar e-post till Bob. På det sättet kommer han att få meddelandet oavsett om han befinner sig hemma eller på arbetet.

Enkelt nog? Bra, låt oss fortsätta.

Låt oss nu förflytta det här till ett det decentraliserade sociala nätverksutrymmet som Hubzilla erbjuder. Vad är annorlunda? Det enda är att om Bob postar en bild while medan han är på jobbet, kommer hans jobbserver att skicka en kopia till hans hemserver så att han kommer att ha samma bild i sitt fotoalbum på båda ställena. Om han får en ny vän, kommer den vännen att läggas till på båda servrarna så att han har samma vänner oavsett vart han tar vägen.

Om Bob nu förlorar sitt jobb och hans konto tas bort från arbete.server, kommer Bob's uppkopplade liv ändå att fortsätta och han känner fortfarande samma människor kan posta samma saker. Han kommer bara att använda hemma.server; och sedan när han får ett nytt jobb, kan han skicka dig saker från bob@nyttjobb.server. Din programvara kommer genast att lägga märke till - "åh, det här är min vän Bob!" även om den aldrig har hört talas om nyttjobb.server tidigare och uppdatera en del saker internt för att påvisa att Bob nu kan bli nådd på nyttjobb.server.

Ingenting av detta spelar någon roll för dig, för att vad gäller din programvara, är det bara 'Bob'. Du bryr dig inte om vilken server han använder eller vilket jobb han har den här veckan.

Det är vad nomadisk identitet handlar om..*

https://hubzilla.org/hubzilla/

 
Just using a request parameter, like "page" is not helpful, then you will may see duplicate posts as "page=2" will change when new posts are being added. #GNUSocial uses here something like "lastPostId" which is the id number of the last post that has been loaded and so displayed.

Maybe I better make an example on how I think how it can be done:

1) Load page and embed "last post id" directly into page
2) Send request out: "POST /ajax/network/?lastPostId=12345&page=current"
3) This returns the posts (lastPostId - postsPerPage) that just be displayed right away including a new lastPostId
4) The user scrolls up, send another request out: "POST /ajax/network/?lastPostId=12335&page=up" (I assumed 10 posts per page and again a new lastPostId is included)
5) On any of those requests, check that more can be loaded, if not, the new lastPostId should be empty, indicating that no more can beloaded
6) Similar when the user scrolls down, then &page=down is given

Maybe not perfect but newly added posts can be found out the same way:
"POST /ajax/network/?lastPostId=12345&page=up (as newer posts are added on top)

The JavaScript then needs to handle empty lastPostId (when < postsPerPage has been found) and removing/adding content.

 

Redes sociales libres en la universidad pública


A pesar de que Internet nació con una estructura descentralizada, hoy se experimenta una fuerte tendencia a la centralización de los servicios de comunicación soportados por esta red de redes. La consolidación de monopolios como Google, Microsoft, Facebook y Amazon, han generado que gran parte del tráfico de información pase por las infraestructuras de unas cuantas empresas que han acumulado un enorme poder económico.
En este contexto, las universidades públicas mexicanas, a pesar de contar con capacidad propia, en los últimos años han migrado buena parte de sus servicios de comunicación internos (como el correo electrónico institucional a Google), herramientas didácticas (como el uso de Facebook en el aula), o medios de difusión y divulgación científica (como la transmisión de eventos académicos por Youtube) a la infraestructura de dichas empresas.
El presente trabajo tiene como objeto aportar elementos para una discusión crítica acerca de las consecuencias de la utilización de plataformas y servicios de comunicación web privativos, gestionados por empresas monopólicas, en las universidades públicas mexicanas.

http://www.revista.unam.mx/vol.18/num1/art93/



#redessociales #redessocialeslibres #facebook #diaspora #twitter #gnusocial #universidad #público #softwarelibre #México

Unam: Redes sociales libres en la universidad pública

El presente trabajo tiene como objeto aportar elementos para una discusión crítica acerca de las consecuencias de la utilización de plataformas y servicios de comunicación web privativos, gestionados por empresas monopólicas, en las universidades públicas mexicanas. Para ello, se analiza el modelo de obtención de beneficios económicos basado en el procesamiento masivo de datos personales por parte de dichas empresas y se señalan sus implicaciones sociales. A partir de aquí, se realiza un análisis del proceso de dependencia tecnológica al que se ven expuestas las universidades públicas y se presenta como una alternativa el uso y desarrollo de plataformas de comunicación descentralizadas o “redes sociales libres”, que permiten la autogestión de sus infraestructuras y la comunicación entre diferentes nodos.

 

Design changed to vier


I changed the design here on this #Friendica node to #Vier which looks like lesser complicated and more modern. I also have surpressed language meta informations to keep the WUI as simple as possible but still powerful (see #bbcode support).

Currently, only my wife @dianalace and me are here. I have not opened registration due to #spam accounts (which have signed up only #GNUSocial instance a lot until I closed registration there, too).

 
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#mozilla #opensource #firefox #nonprofit #profit #privacy

Meine Vorstellungen eines #Open-Source Browsers :

Schön wäre es doch, wenn z.B. Mozilla.org ebenfalls auch andere Open Source Projekte wie #diaspora #friendica #gnusocial usw. unterstützen würde und sich tatsächlich an ihre eigenen Versprechungen halten würde.

Nämlich :
Internet für Menschen, nicht für Profit

Außerdem : Was ich bis heute nicht so recht nachvollziehen kann, sind die Beweggründe, weshalb ausgerechnet sehr viele LINUX !!! Distributionen immer noch die Firma Google als Default Search-enginge ihren Usern zumuten wollen.

.....kopp schüttel

 
@reznik Die Gruppenfunktion ist einer der großen Pluspunkte für #GnuSocial. Das schätze ich auch ungemein. Kann man damit doch sehr gezielt seine Interessen bedienen. Und die der anderen Abonnenten ☺

 

Umstrukturierungen....



So, ich habe mir unter @reznik einen neuen #GNUSocial Account zugelegt. 2 Gründe dafür:
1. Ich denke, dass #Friendica zu umfangreich und zu gut ist, um eben schnell Weisheiten raus zu rotzen. Aber das ist das, was ich am liebsten mache.
2. Ich bekomme hier die Likes der GNUSocial User zu sehen. Und das nervt mich. Gewaltig. Wirklich. Es nervt so sehr, dass ich diese FF-Erweiterung User-Styles (oder so) installiert habe und das rausfiltere. Das führt aber dazu, dass ich Friendica nur noch im FF benutzen kann. Das konnte so nicht weiter gehen...

Der Account hier bleibt aber bestehen. Die Texte hier werden länger werden und ich werde mehr gebrauch von den Textformatierungsmöglichkeiten machen. Es wird also blogartiger. Und ich werde hier einigen Leute entfolgen (hautpsächlich gnusocial User), da mein Input hauptsächlich über gnusocial kommen soll.
Ob und wo ihr mir folgt, bleibt euch überlassen. Ihr seid freie Menschen (hoffe ich doch ^^).

Noch Fragen? Nein? Dann fange ich mal drüben mit dem folgen an. Man sieht sich... :)

 
#Test the #GNUsocial connector from #Friendica. Do not ignore this! (Trying to get you to ignore this) :-)

 



Mastodon un nuevo servidor compatible con GNUsocial | victorhckinthefreeworldhttps://victorhckinthefreeworld.com/2016/11/22/mastodon-un-nuevo-servidor-compatible-con-gnusocial/

“Mastodon es un software para servidor de red social libre y de código abierto. Una alternativa descentralizada a plataformas comerciales, que evita el riesgo de que una única compañía monopolice tus comunicaciones. Cualquiera puede ejecutar Mastodon y participar en la red social sin problemas”

#gnusocial #softwarelibre #ñ

victorhckinthefreeworld: Mastodon un nuevo servidor compatible con GNUsocial (victorhck)

Mastodon es un nuevo software para poner en marcha un servidor de “microbloggin” compatible con GNUsocial y que federará con nodos de esta red social libre y federada. Tal como dicen en…